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  Anyone notice JW old publications are going way up in price?

  by Tobyjones262 in

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  i have long collected the older books and magazines that show the jws crazy cult history.

  they used to be very cheap and i have had people just give me books.

  but now it seems the older stuff that shows the crazy cult history is really going up in price.

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  Really, talk about unrighteous riches!
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  Hungry?? Don’t worry- I’ll feed you soon....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how often have we heard jws (and christians in general) speak about how “god will step in soon and fix earths woes”.

  a thought came to mind that i would love to calmly say to the person that says we should “wait on god”.

  if your child looks up at you with big eyes, and a pained look on his face and says “daddy, i’m so hungry.

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  I could never figure out how people who are suffering are told that one day God will put it right. Not now, but one day - and only if you accept this religion.

  Whereas animals that are suffering get no promise of relief despite God apparently caring about every single little sparrow.
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  So I read the the gog of magog chapters from the new restore true worship book...

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and what a heaping nonsensical freddie franz like bunch of crap.

  as i told my pimi brother.

  it's all based on assumptions and assertions that the ezekiel gog of magog account has a 2nd fulfillment in our day.

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  I was watching a documentary about the Waco siege and David Koresh (Messiah or Madman) and listening to recordings of him interpreting Revelation and Daniel to fit in with his own religious nonsense.

  And I thought how similar to the JW leadership interpreting the same verses to apply solely to them and their followers.

  As the FBI agent they interviewed at Waco said, con men will always con their followers and when the situation changes, they will say that they have received a new revelation.

  Most people looking on dismissed the Waco group as a fanatical cult led by a madman and most people looking at the WTB&TS today probably think the same. The only ones who think otherwise are inside the cult group itself.
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  Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

  by Tobyjones262 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

  he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

  we used to call him.

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  Of course. We had one who would raise a controversial issue during the elders meeting and everyone would get stuck in about what to do with the person.

  And I would wait and then ask him "who did you hear this from?" He would bluster and say that it wasn't important who, they were sound and had reported it in earnestness etc, and get angry (I mean really angry) at me for pushing it. I knew as most of the quiet ones did, that his information came from his wife - who listened to every piece of gossip going.

  And he in turn would update her as she wore the trousers in that house.

  I recently heard that he is now the coordinator. His wife must be on cloud 9.
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  Warwick and Similar Properties

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a comment from a friend's page.

  "why does a heavenly organisation need earthly headquarters buildings?

  surely jesus said that god is a spirit and should be worshipped in spirit and truth?

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  A comment from a friend's page.

  "Why does a heavenly organisation need earthly headquarters buildings? Surely Jesus said that God is a Spirit and should be worshipped in spirit and truth?"
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  Who else had to sit though last weeks WT study, 6th Jan 2019 - "Buy Truth and Never Sell It"

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that title, “buy truth and never sell it”.

  is that not our goal has jw’s, to try to sell the truth to those who have the right heart condition to accept it?.

  para 9: “when the fishermen peter and andrew were invited by jesus to become “fishers of men,” they “abandoned their nets.” (matt.

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  The one I wondered about was "One day while walking drunk along the road, Jasmine met two Witness missionaries. The missionaries arranged for a Bible study."

  Presumably the missionaries weren't getting much success in their ministry that when they spot a violent aggressive drunk - they offer a Bible Study. Would you, really?

  Then the fact that when they call the couple are still drunk, so they arrange to come back again. Obviously they have no other people to call on, because if they had they'd prioritise and the drunks would not be top of their list. Personally I think it is another made up story.
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  WT has another 91 million for lawsuit payments now

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  2. current

  the last sale of their most valuable asset.

  https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2018/12/21/fortis-pays-91-million-for-former-watchtower-parking-lot/.

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  But didn't you catch the day's text for Wednesday January 9 (Vomiting).

  Everything was numbered and weighed, and all the weight was recorded.​—Ezra 8:34.

  With prayerful consideration, the Governing Body strives to be faithful and discreet with regard to how the organization’s funds are used. (Matt. 24:45) The funds that are received are budgeted and spent accordingly. (Luke 14:28) The apostle Paul collected funds as a relief ministration for the brothers in Judea. He took steps to ensure that those delivering the funds cared for “everything honestly, not only in the sight of Jehovah but also in the sight of men.” (2 Cor. 8:18-21) Imitating the examples of Ezra and Paul, our organization today follows strict procedures when it comes to handling and spending donated funds. (Ezra 8:24-33) In recent years, there have been many exciting new initiatives. The organization looks for ways to reduce expenses and simplify the work so as to be able to accomplish the most that it can with your generous donations.
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  Cutting the ties which bind.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following article is about getting away from toxic family members.

  but it equally can apply to cutting off any toxic person or group of people.

  looking at the 5 points for identifying such toxic people - i have seen or experienced every one of them inside the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Lost in the fog

  The following article is about getting away from toxic family members. But it equally can apply to cutting off any toxic person or group of people.

  Looking at the 5 points for identifying such toxic people - I have seen or experienced every one of them inside the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As I am sure you have as well.

  https://lessonslearnedinlife.com/enough-is-enough-when-its-okay-to-cut-family-members-out-of-your-life-2/
  
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  Enlighten me If you can

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  confusing standards or hodge podge?.

  what is this about beards i never got the hang of from day one?

  are beards ok or not?.

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  WATCHTOWER SEPTEMBER 2016. Page 21, Paragraph 17.

  17. What are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?

  17 What about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard? The Mosaic Law required men to wear a beard. However, Christians are not under the Mosaic Law, nor are they obliged to observe it. (Lev. 19:27; 21:5; Gal. 3:24, 25) In some cultures, a neatly trimmed beard may be acceptable and respectable, and it may not detract at all from the Kingdom message. In fact, some appointed brothers have beards. Even so, some brothers might decide not to wear a beard. (1 Cor. 8:9, 13; 10:32) In other cultures or localities, beards are not the custom and are not considered acceptable for Christian ministers. In fact, having one may hinder a brother from bringing glory to God by his dress and grooming and his being irreprehensible.​—Rom. 15:1-3; 1 Tim. 3:2, 7.
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  Active JW's: If asked, can you explain/defend this belief?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

  (wt july 2013, p.22, par.

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  @Nitty-gritty.

  The idea that by being baptised into their religion means agreeing with all that they teach runs into a problem.

  The teaching keeps changing! The teachings a person accepted without challenge at the time of their baptism, might have been thrown out and are now no longer acceptable. But the jw cannot now openly disagree with the party line or will be made to face the consequences.

  Secondly, at baptism we all agreed that we would be an ordained minister in harmony with "God's spirit-directed organisation". When we discover much later that God's spirit is not leading the F&DS we either cancel our membership and stop ministering, or (pimo) hide out all the while keeping our heads down and not actively stirring the pot.

  It's a very sad state for any one to be living in. Fear of men (GB and Elders), who you unknowingly handed over your power to when you said "yes" to those baptism questions so long ago.